Unfortunately who isn't? I mean, it's only a few companies that actually work hard to bring great titles on the Wii. I don't see why not actually, if people keep buying it then I would make shovelware too, Easy Money. Now when they stop buying it, then I would try to create something worthwhile.Take2 only interested in Shovelware on t ...
Where'd you get shovelware out of that? Mini-game themed games aren't automatically shovelware, and Carnival Games isn't nearly as terrible as the elitists would have you think. It's not their type of game, therefore, it's shovelware to them.Take-Two is making a good decision to release more games like that on the Wii, since they sell like crazy.But that article also mentioned that Take-Two will use the DS GTA as a barometer for how the ''typical Nintendo audience'' receives their more mature-themed games. So if you want Take-Two's grittier stuff on the Wii, buy Chinatown Wars on the DS.
Not surprising, their the most successful company in regards to shovelware.
[QUOTE=''JordanElek'']...and Carnival Games isn't nearly as terrible as the elitists would have you think. It's not their type of game, therefore, it's shovelware to them...[/QUOTE]As a matter of fact, it is not terrible. They got the game at my Mom's and they like it, they have played the shooting gallery quite a lot, as well as mny of the other games. Sure, it's no Mario Galaxy, but it is a good game for the audience it was intended for, and I too have enjoyed it as well.
[QUOTE=''JordanElek'']Where'd you get shovelware out of that? Mini-game themed games aren't automatically shovelware, and Carnival Games isn't nearly as terrible as the elitists would have you think. It's not their type of game, therefore, it's shovelware to them.Take-Two is making a good decision to release more games like that on the Wii, since they sell like crazy.
But that article also mentioned that Take-Two will use the DS GTA as a barometer for how the ''typical Nintendo audience'' receives their more mature-themed games. So if you want Take-Two's grittier stuff on the Wii, buy Chinatown Wars on the DS.[/QUOTE]I've largely concluded from topics like this that the term ''shovelware'' has no meaning anymore. :P It seems to basically just mean ''games that I'm not interested in''.
[QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']Read it and weep peeps. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=204388Basically shovelware sells so they are going to make more of it and GTA etc aren't suitable as Wii games.Kinda sucks in my book Phil [/QUOTE] ''Some of our best content really isn't appropriate for the Wii. That said, Carnival Games has been a massive success for the company, and we're looking at ... extending that brand to other areas.'' Don't count on seeing a Wii GTA anytime soon.
Carnival Games is the EPITOME of Shovelware - It's a poorly executed game sold at a cheap price to sell in high numbers! That to me is Shovelware.On Metacritic it scores 49 on Gamespot 4.5 so please don't come on this thread and say it's not shovelware just because your family like it.And my comments still stand. More shovelware and less 18 rated content just goes to show how they treat people who like to play games who own Wiis.I thought more people would be pissed at this obviously I am wrong in thinking people want to be able to play a GTA game on the Wii.
[QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']Carnival Games is the EPITOME of Shovelware - It's a poorly executed game sold at a cheap price to sell in high numbers![/QUOTE] Poorly executed? It does exactly what it's supposed to do, with a few hiccups here and there. Carnival Games got a lot of flack because it was one of the first non-Nintendo party games that forum-goers and seasoned gamers in general didn't like, probably because of the poor choice in art direction, and it gained some kind of poster-boy status for ''games We don't like'' from the self-proclaimed hardcore audience. The bottom line is that enough people enjoyed it to create a buzz amongst the game-buying population, and it ended up selling quite well for not being part of a well-known franchise. And I'm not basing this on my own family's experience alone. This point has been debated in this forum before.... People who buy Carnival Games generally like it. [QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']I thought more people would be pissed at this obviously I am wrong in thinking people want to be able to play a GTA game on the Wii.[/QUOTE] Most of us are used to it and have realized that if we really need to play GTA-like games, we'll have to buy a different console. In fact, most of us realized that last generation. Lots of people enjoy games like Carnival Games, so why would a developer avoid them? We may not like it, but it's just something that we have to accept. Also, the existence of those games doesn't mean that they'll completely replace the more in-depth games that we love. I'll even admit that there aren't as many of those as I'd prefer on the release list right now, but they're there. Developers still don't really know exactly how to approach the Wii, and we're seeing evidence of that in interviews like this one. I say give it some more time, and there will be a great selection of games for everyone, just like what happened with the DS.And like I mentioned before, Take-Two is still unsure of how well its lovechildren would sell on the Wii, so its using the DS as a test. Buy Chinatown Wars.
[QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']Read it and weep peeps.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=204388
Basically shovelware sells so they are going to make more of it and GTA etc aren't suitable as Wii games.
Kinda sucks in my book
Phil
[/QUOTE] Not a good gaming company if you ask me.
Pffft piss poor excuse..imo just lazy.
[QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']Carnival Games is the EPITOME of Shovelware - It's a poorly executed game sold at a cheap price to sell in high numbers! That to me is Shovelware.[/QUOTE]Carnival Games has sold in the millions because it does what it does well and people like it. The people who reviewed it are not in its target audience, so of course they're not going to like it. You can't play review scores, and they really have no bearing on a person's enjoyment of a game. I've had games rated in the 4s and 5s that I've liked, and I've had games rated in the 9s that I didn't like.If the only definition of shovelware is a game that sells well and is enjoyed by the public despite its being received poorly by critics, then the term ''shovelware'' ought not to carry with it any negative connotations at all. No offense to critics, but people give them way too much credit.
No biggy. I just won't buy them.
I thought Rockstar makes all of the GTA games?
[QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']And my comments still stand.[/quote]As does mine, the game is enjoyable and fun, therefor it's good at what it's supposed to do.[QUOTE=''Nomad0404'']I thought more people would be pissed at this obviously I am wrong in thinking people want to be able to play a GTA game on the Wii. [/QUOTE]Nope, I've had my fill of GTA to last me for a long while yet. When, AND if I ever want t play GTA 4, I will ask a friend to let me barrow the game, but I won't be spending any money on it.
[QUOTE=''GabuEx''][QUOTE=''JordanElek''] Where'd you get shovelware out of that? Mini-game themed games aren't automatically shovelware, and Carnival Games isn't nearly as terrible as the elitists would have you think. It's not their type of game, therefore, it's shovelware to them.Take-Two is making a good decision to release more games like that on the Wii, since they sell like crazy.But that article also mentioned that Take-Two will use the DS GTA as a barometer for how the ''typical Nintendo audience'' receives their more mature-themed games. So if you want Take-Two's grittier stuff on the Wii, buy Chinatown Wars on the DS.[/QUOTE] I've largely concluded from topics like this that the term ''shovelware'' has no meaning anymore. :P It seems to basically just mean ''games that I'm not interested in''.[/QUOTE]:P
um rockstar made manhunt 2 didnt they not, so if take 2 was only interisted in shovel ware, i dont think bully se or man hunt 2 or rocktar table tennis would have made it to the wii, resident evil 4 resident evil uc zack and wiki need for speed madden nba live nascar kart racing the condullt cod5 007 quantum of solace(the best version of it mind you ,) wouldnt be on the wii either, nor would driver paralel lines scarface the god father red steel farcry brothers in arms, trama center no more heroes cruisn indianapolis 500 legends classic british motor racing , and more wouldnt be on wii , 17 plus all nintendo games, plus more, if you aint satisfied with 20 or more games, then you should not be gaming
[QUOTE=''JordanElek''] Where'd you get shovelware out of that? Mini-game themed games aren't automatically shovelware, and Carnival Games isn't nearly as terrible as the elitists would have you think. It's not their type of game, therefore, it's shovelware to them.Take-Two is making a good decision to release more games like that on the Wii, since they sell like crazy.But that article also mentioned that Take-Two will use the DS GTA as a barometer for how the ''typical Nintendo audience'' receives their more mature-themed games. So if you want Take-Two's grittier stuff on the Wii, buy Chinatown Wars on the DS.[/QUOTE)It may not automatically be shovelware, but how many mini game themed games do we need? And maybe he doesnt have a ds
I don't get where people find the idea that every mini-game compilation sells extremely well on the Wii. A lot of them flop, just like games on all other systems. As for ''testing the waters'', I'm not sure if the sales of a handheld game are accurate in judging the salesof a console game. For example, Mario %26 Sonic at the Olympic games sold twice as much on the Wii than it id on the DS.To keep it things a little more specific to Take 2/Rockstar, Bully: Scholarship Edition was a PS2 port that sold 325k on the Wii. I guess since GTA is a much more popular brand, it could acheive sales twice as high. If it is built ground up for the Wii, it could pass 1 million within a year of it's release.
[QUOTE=''DaLegendKilla92''] I don't get where people find the idea that every mini-game compilation sells extremely well on the Wii. A lot of them flop, just like games on all other systems. As for ''testing the waters'', I'm not sure if the sales of a handheld game are accurate in judging the salesof a console game. For example, Mario %26 Sonic at the Olympic games sold twice as much on the Wii than it id on the DS. To keep it things a little more specific to Take 2/Rockstar, Bully: Scholarship Edition was a PS2 port that sold 325k on the Wii. I guess since GTA is a much more popular brand, it could acheive sales twice as high. If it is built ground up for the Wii, it could pass 1 million within a year of it's release. [/QUOTE]Good point, thats what I wanted to say Re: the DS but couldnt find the words, lol. I dont really know how well a GTA game would do on the Wii though. I think the casual base and the family base is too well seeded at this point that I cant see it doing that well.
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