Monday, April 12, 2010

Will Nintendo's next console cater to th ...

The Wii advertises to casual players a lot, and Nintendo is seeing the benefit of that. But will their next console take it a step further somehow? I am just wondering how nintendo will replicate the success it has seen with the Wii.......again.Will Nintendo's next console cater to th ...
good question. i dont think they'll go more casual. i think if they go any farther they'll lose all their harcore fans.Will Nintendo's next console cater to th ...
By taking it a step further. I dont know why everyone thinks the wii is a casual system. I have 30 games, plus all the VC and Wiiware games ive dled. I would not consider that casual. I have 4 friends with 360s and they hvae less then 30 games, and on top of that, they have the base 5 games, GTA, COD, Halo, AC, Rock Band/GuitarHero. A system is a system, there may be a lot of shovel ware, but there is shovel ware on all consoles. Nintendo has always made systems for everyone. what is wrong with that?????Nothing. There is plenty of games, and as long as Nintendo continues to release the SMG next to Wiisports, what is to complain about??? if anything 3rd parties need to step up, and if you pay attention to the new games coming out, they finally are.
Not everyone is into VC games ..I think if they continue to cater to casual gamers they will ultimately lose all their core gamers. But that prolly won't matter to them as core gamers are in minority, %26 they will always hav zombie fanboys support. I for one won't be buying the next Nintendo system if there's no improvement to the amount of core games on the current Wii. :)
Well, they really have 2 chioces. Since the Wii was made to bring in an expanded audience of gamers, with the next system Nintendo can say ''Our new audience have become gamers. Now we need to keep them with us by giving them deeper content that will really get them hooked.'' Or they could use the next system to try to expand the game audience even further which would mean even ''casualer'' games, so to speak.I think most of us would hope for the former.
[QUOTE=''Arc2012''] Well, they really have 2 chioces. Since the Wii was made to bring in an expanded audience of gamers, with the next system Nintendo can say ''Our new audience have become gamers. Now we need to keep them with us by giving them deeper content that will really get them hooked.'' Or they could use the next system to try to expand the game audience even further which would mean even ''casualer'' games, so to speak.I think most of us would hope for the former. [/QUOTE]When you are the first company to truely cast the net wide. I dont think you need to go any more casual. In fact, its probably not even possible. I think the problem with the PS3 this gen was based on the fact that Sony assumed the fanbase would all suddenly turn hardcore. They didnt.However, if Nintendo continue what they do now, It wont matter, they will have the third party support the PS2 had. They will still attempt to keep costs on the new console low, but the support and the usual slew of Nintendo hardcore titles like Zelda wont exactly stop. So what you will have is a VAST improvement over the Wii not in technical terms or audience/focus, but in software. Developers go where the money is, and that's Nintendo's strategy. Obviously Nintendo will improve the Wii technologically and might even include HD (although personally I dont think its even worth the effort), but the main focuse will be on getting devs to rally around them by offering them a chance to make a profitHD in itself is not an important feature, but raw power is. Physics, AI etc. will most likely be better, but dont get your hopes up for HD - its not like its important anyway.Again it will be negatively affected to some degree by fanboys or 'hardcores' who think that casual is taking over when it already possessed. Case in point, the PS1 and PS2, and to a lesser extent. the NES and SNES.
What could they do to cater to the casuals more than they already do? It would probably be harder to turn it up a notch as casuals have already been introduced to the world of gaming, and that's where Nintendo has got their success from.I think they'll continue doing what they're doing now and releasing the odd casual game to keep them interested while really concentrating on their franchises. If anything the hardcore will be the ones catered to more since there's no doubt some of the new gamers will ''turn more hardcore'' by the time next gen starts. I'm sure there's plenty of kids out there who have become little Nintendo fans after playing games like Galaxy which never wouldn't have happened if the Wii was something completely different.
[QUOTE=''Quofan''][QUOTE=''Arc2012''] Well, they really have 2 chioces. Since the Wii was made to bring in an expanded audience of gamers, with the next system Nintendo can say ''Our new audience have become gamers. Now we need to keep them with us by giving them deeper content that will really get them hooked.'' Or they could use the next system to try to expand the game audience even further which would mean even ''casualer'' games, so to speak.I think most of us would hope for the former. [/QUOTE]When you are the first company to truely cast the net wide. I dont think you need to go any more casual. In fact, its probably not even possible. I think the problem with the PS3 this gen was based on the fact that Sony assumed the fanbase would all suddenly turn hardcore. They didnt.However, if Nintendo continue what they do now, It wont matter, they will have the third party support the PS2 had. They will still attempt to keep costs on the new console low, but the support and the usual slew of Nintendo hardcore titles like Zelda wont exactly stop. So what you will have is a VAST improvement over the Wii not in technical terms or audience/focus, but in software. Developers go where the money is, and that's Nintendo's strategy. Obviously Nintendo will improve the Wii technologically and might even include HD (although personally I dont think its even worth the effort), but the main focuse will be on getting devs to rally around them by offering them a chance to make a profitHD in itself is not an important feature, but raw power is. Physics, AI etc. will most likely be better, but dont get your hopes up for HD - its not like its important anyway.Again it will be negatively affected to some degree by fanboys or 'hardcores' who think that casual is taking over when it already possessed. Case in point, the PS1 and PS2, and to a lesser extent. the NES and SNES.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it better, myself!
Considering that every single console Nintendo has ever made has been casual I think there's a very good chance that their next one is also casual.Much the same way that since they've only created games for casual players there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing that too.Usually when a company has always done the same thing and made money there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing it
[QUOTE=''Jaysonguy''] Considering that every single console Nintendo has ever made has been casual I think there's a very good chance that their next one is also casual.Much the same way that since they've only created games for casual players there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing that too.Usually when a company has always done the same thing and made money there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing it [/QUOTE]Yep. But as long as there are enjoyable and fun games, I could care less.
[QUOTE=''Wolblade''][QUOTE=''Jaysonguy''] Considering that every single console Nintendo has ever made has been casual I think there's a very good chance that their next one is also casual.Much the same way that since they've only created games for casual players there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing that too.Usually when a company has always done the same thing and made money there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing it [/QUOTE]Yep. But as long as there are enjoyable and fun games, I could care less.[/QUOTE]That's the whole pointI don't care what they're labeled as long as I have fun with them.
I highly doubt it. IMO, this is Nintendos strategy:



After the relatively dismal sales of the gamecube, Nintendo needed to reestablish a fanbase. But they didn't want to go compete over graphics and such with Sony and Microsoft to get the self-proclaimed ''Harcore''. No, they chose to bring in new gamers, because there are more of them. Then, because ''Hardcore'' gamers will buy more games, they are making bridge title to convert their new audience into one that will buy more of their games and their next console. Nintendo isn't just going to let the new gamers say ''Casual'' they are going to make them into valuable and loyal customers. Therefore, i submit that the next console will be a ''Bridge'' Console, a console focused half on the new gamers and half on the old. It will finish the process of converting the ''casuals'' the wii earned into ''Hardcore'' which will then buy the console after this bridge console, which will likely be more hardcore. But of course, with technology it's virtually impossible to perfectly predict things, so this might not all go as planned. I''m hoping it works though.
[QUOTE=''Jaysonguy''][QUOTE=''Wolblade''][QUOTE=''Jaysonguy''] Considering that every single console Nintendo has ever made has been casual I think there's a very good chance that their next one is also casual.Much the same way that since they've only created games for casual players there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing that too.Usually when a company has always done the same thing and made money there's a really good chance they'll keep on doing it [/QUOTE]Yep. But as long as there are enjoyable and fun games, I could care less.[/QUOTE]That's the whole pointI don't care what they're labeled as long as I have fun with them. [/QUOTE]Honestly, people care more about ''hardcore vs. casual'' than having fun. I don't need HD/Shooters/Blood/Whatever other nonsense to have fun. Maybe for some people, but not for me. Nintendo delivers my favorite franchises, I have fun, end of story. Though not part of this particular arguement, if Sony or Microsoft had games that I had plenty of fun with, then I'd be saying the same thing.
[QUOTE=''Wolblade'']Honestly, people care more about ''hardcore vs. casual'' than having fun. I don't need HD/Shooters/Blood/Whatever other nonsense to have fun. Maybe for some people, but not for me. Nintendo delivers my favorite franchises, I have fun, end of story. Though not part of this particular arguement, if Sony or Microsoft had games that I had plenty of fun with, then I'd be saying the same thing.[/QUOTE]That right there is why I have never purchased an Xbox or ps.If the fact that I don't play games where I can be a drug dealer and kill prostitutes makes me a casual player then fine, I'm more a casual type of gal anyway. The fact is 'casual' gamers are not new, these are not new people that are being introduced to games, these are people that grew up playing video and are happy to finally have something to play.
the wii advertises to casual players alot because the hardcore already look at gaming news, such as gamespot. casuals don't, so nintendo focuses their market on them.



as for the ''even more casual appealing'', probably, but they'll make sure they'll keep a (big) space for hardcore, kinda like the wii is doing. that way they'll be following their ''blue ocean strategy'', getting new market while keeping the old.
[QUOTE=''BrunoBRS'']the wii advertises to casual players alot because the hardcore already look at gaming news, such as gamespot. casuals don't, so nintendo focuses their market on them. as for the ''even more casual appealing'', probably, but they'll make sure they'll keep a (big) space for hardcore, kinda like the wii is doing. that way they'll be following their ''blue ocean strategy'', getting new market while keeping the old.[/QUOTE]Nintendo has never made a game for the hardcore ever in it's historyOh wait, they did. They Made Mario Bros Lost Levels and then decided they'd never do it again
After the wii's success, I could definitely see ninty making a hi def console with graphics like or greater than ps3/360. And of course furthering the motion sensing technology. I think their games have always been the same though. A few........ugh....... hatethisword ''hardcore'' games and then mostly ''casual'' hatethatwordtoo, so I dont see that changing
[QUOTE=''Jaysonguy'']Nintendo has never made a game for the hardcore ever in it's historyOh wait, they did. They Made Mario Bros Lost Levels and then decided they'd never do it again [/QUOTE]Just to clear this up, besides MLB Power Pros, what exactly are some of the ''hardcore'' games out there right now?
[QUOTE=''Arc2012''][QUOTE=''Jaysonguy'']Nintendo has never made a game for the hardcore ever in it's historyOh wait, they did. They Made Mario Bros Lost Levels and then decided they'd never do it again [/QUOTE]Just to clear this up, besides MLB Power Pros, what exactly are some of the ''hardcore'' games out there right now? [/QUOTE]To break it down into it's most literal sense there are no such things as hardcore games, it doesn't make sense to say there are.Now there are games that start off as a level higher for experienced gamersThere are very few games out there that are for the hardcore.Every single game ever produced by Nintendo are casual games (minus one) meant to be played and enjoyed by the most novice player and also the youngest of player .The idea that Nintendo has always made it their priority to make games for experienced gamers is false
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